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A proud patriarchal wingnut hit on 14 year old girls? No, that can’t be right.

A proud patriarchal wingnut hit on 14 year old girls? No, that can't be right.

by digby


Bowl me over with a feather. Judge Roy Moore hits on young teen-age girls. Karoli at C&L has the story:


The bombshell story just out in the Washington Post should end Roy Moore's political career forever, but it remains to be seen whether or not Alabama can cobble together a coalition of the decent to defeat the coalition of the greedy.

It reaches back to the 70s, when Moore was 32 and Leigh Corfman was 14. Yes. FOURTEEN YEARS OLD.

Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.

“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.” Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.

It wasn't just Corfman, either. There are four different women all willing to put their stories and names on the record about Moore's predilection for young girls.

Under Alabama law then and now, this conduct is not legal, as the Post notes:

The legal age of consent in Alabama, then and now, is 16. Under Alabama law in 1979, and today, a person who is at least 19 years old who has sexual contact with someone between 12 and 16 years old has committed sexual abuse in the second degree. Sexual contact is defined as touching of sexual or intimate parts. The crime is a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in jail. 
The law then and now also includes a section on enticing a child younger than 16 to enter a home with the purpose of proposing sexual intercourse or fondling of sexual and genital parts. That is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

In interviews, Corfman said she hadn't come forward because she had her own sordid past, which is typical of a culture where men are allowed to take whatever they want whenever they want while blaming women for taking it. It's sad that she lived with this all these years and never said anything before because she didn't want her life torn apart. Understandable, but sad.

Bannon and Breitbart are already ahead of the story, justifying their guy's sexual predatory behavior, while sneering "smear!" at the Washington Post.


Here's Breitbart's page :

I wish I was sure that this would kill Moore's candidacy but I don't. McConnell and Flake both say he should withdraw but that's not surprising. Trump bragged about grabbing women by the crotch and getting away with it and also was accused of oogling teen-age year old girls in the dressing rooms of beauty pageants:

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

"I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’ " said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

Trump, she recalled, said something like, "Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before."

Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it "shocking" and "creepy." The third said she was clothed and introduced herself to Trump.

The story also reported:

Of the 11 (contestants) who said they don’t remember Trump coming into the changing room, some said it was possible that it happened while they weren’t in the room or that they didn’t notice. But most were dubious or dismissed the possibility out of hand.

Allison Bowman, former Miss Wisconsin Teen USA, cast doubt on whether it happened. "These were teenage girls," Bowman said. "If anything inappropriate had gone on, the gossip would have flown."

But there was also this:

Billado said she told Ivanka Trump (Trump’s daughter), about Donald Trump entering the room while the girls were changing their clothes. Billado remembers Ivanka answering, "Yeah, he does that."

Trump’s words

Three days before Kind made his statement, CNN reported on comments Trump has made about women to radio talk show host Howard Stern over the years. In a 2005 interview, Trump talked about walking in on naked contestants -- but that was in response to a discussion about the Miss USA and Miss Universe pageants, whose contestants are adults. Trump said:

Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting, I want to make sure that everything is good.

You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone okay?’ You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good.

Trump’s campaign didn’t respond to our requests for this item, but his campaign did issue this statement in response to the BuzzFeed story:

"These accusations have no merit and have already been disproven by many other individuals who were present. When you see questionable attacks like this magically put out there in the final month of a presidential campaign, you have to ask yourself what the political motivations are and why the media is pushing it."

There is not evidence, however, that the accusations have been disproved -- only that some of the contestants said they were not aware of the alleged incident, and some believed it could not have happened.


Despite that, Trump won Alabama with 62% of the vote. I suspect these sort of things aren't something the state's Republicans particularly care about. Unless it's a Democrat in which case they would be banging on their Bibles and speaking in tongues.

We'll see. maybe things have changed with all the sexual harassment and rape charges all over the place recently. But I'll believe it when I see it.